WC X NL -Bx1 run

[TigerTanks]

Seed bombs underwayView attachment 108548

What are seed bombs?

 

[StickyBallz]

Seed bombs mean wrapping seeds in a mixture of pure clay and earth worm castings, kind of a a 50/50 mixture, so that I can hopefully "chuck" seeds, like into a field, giving them a better chance at making it. However the reality is they are best used if one nooks out a little pit for them and press them in- done at the right time, mother nature can take over and it is possible for them to be half wild kinda. Or at least more minimal maintenance than a housey plant. It works with other seeds and plants so why not, right?
Gonna be testing some of those out soon! Thanks for the question; totally reminded me I need to test them out.
Found two little volunteers this morning.
Popping up from where I was dumping last year's outdoor waste.
They aren't looking that great but there definitely present. Lol oops there's a third, I'm sure they will continue to come up in this spot- I dump a lot of weed which melted in the ground.

 

[StickyBallz]

Finally got to pulling the male downfeels like he's doing pretty well

 

[StickyBallz]

Damn Im so weak willed some times....
Well looks like I'm jumping on the auto train for a moment!and fuck fuck duck... Did I mention I hate clones...yah yah, I hear it already, then when you buy em...
Anyways, well in this case, I do really like forbidden fruit, I know this, I wouldn't mind some seeds of her x (WCxnl).. last possible moment addition for me, know she won't be much, but it will at least be a cross and something to delve into later.
Did that with mimosa, winter before last, still haven't gotten to really growing those.
Kinda shows where tangie falls on my like list.

 

[StickyBallz]

And no, I'm not breeding autos with auto or affiliated with breeding autos, just something to try outdoors in some bags while I work my soil for my photos and regular stuff.

 

[StickyBallz]

Cause I gots like two months of working my compost pile and area which I will be doing a direct seeding of a lot of various works in for a late planting, stinger(top)crop.
The piles cooking along nicelybeen flipping it every other day, to keep it aerobic. Been super wet, working on drying it out, however think it might almost be time to give some water.

 

[StickyBallz]

It's the spring pile from cleaning the coop of the birds, as well as some various coffee grounds, egg shells(stuff I don't chuck at the birds caus they get most of our food debris; covered in oats-keeps the compost tray nicer to keep dry oats as a litter), also added our rabbits cage cleaning to the pile. Oh shit, I forgot, I'm gonna add our tortoise/meal worm clean out, get some of those good chitins and what not. Got a whole barrel full, should be great to get in there.
Feeling this year is gonna top last year, super looking forward to it! gonna work that soil into a nice tilth and hopefully they all take off amazingly! Had some really good years and each one keep getting more amazing, so this one should be pretty fun!

 

[StickyBallz]

Been trying to decide on weather to clean up the bottoms of these indoor floor WCxnl bx1 group, or do an old school hurding and pop some cores..
Don't really want to stress them with both at once considering I'm still in the middle of introducing my side lighting and I know that's a stressor.
Currently leaning to cleaning up small undergrowth and hurd right before flip.
Day 8 from flip.

 

[StickyBallz]

While I still have concerns with the blueberry muffin, a buddy is supposedly sending me some blueberry cheesecake..
I know I'll have a good collection come the blueberry cake pheno hunt!

 

[Zaphod420]

Been trying to decide on weather to clean up the bottoms of these indoor floor WCxnl bx1 group, View attachment 112692or do an old school hurding and pop some cores..
Don't really want to stress them with both at once considering I'm still in the middle of introducing my side lighting and I know that's a stressor.
Currently leaning to cleaning up small undergrowth and hurd right before flip.
Day 8 from flip.

Can you expand on this technique a bit SB? And all your plants look very healthy to me(some are hardcore praying to the light ) and I would think could take 2 stressors at once ala defol + more light no problem.

 

[StickyBallz]

Can you expand on this technique a bit SB? And all your plants look very healthy to me(some are hardcore praying to the light ) and I would think could take 2 stressors at once ala defol + more light no problem.

First thanks for the input, and faith they could take the stressors, always nice to hear.
Yah, I've been pretty happy with looking at them from afar with how they be praying. Gives me a good smile.
Get too close and I start feeling concerns, but am thinking they will all be ready to boom.
Just growing pains, easy to get lost on it.
Yah, so when I was a kid, reading high times back in the nineties, there was a lot of articles surrounding super cropping just coming out. which as many things in cannabis culture seem to, can take on different meanings in different groups. Wether this means to flip them and then reveg, or wether it means just going really hard on them, which I think has now been defined more as mainlining. Where you are topping and training out hard, right.
Anyways.
Without going off on too much a tangent.
So back then, one of the super cropping methods or parts was to take the stalk in two spots near each other and pinch firmly but not breaking, and twisting them opposite- aimed at popping the inner core, without damaging the outter cell walls. Causing it to kinda swell up or knot up. Doing this can help keep from needing to trellis as it forces the plant to reinforce the area. I believe is called "hurding". Anyways, for me it's old an old school thing, as I ran into quite a few mountain men who've been pretty big on doing it to strengthen the plants up.

 

[StickyBallz]

From what I've learned technically speaking, is your breaking the inner cambium and can cause kind of a tumorous growth.
Which I believe is argued if it's truly beneficial.
However it does toughen up a good bit, I have seen it help for sure. Also seen some plants not take it too well... So... I kinda figure this is all about getting the strongest plants I can, so I might as well. Not like they got nature giving them those wind stressors or the sun.
Probably not doing it on the clones, they don't have any tap roots to really react with anyways.
Zombies, clones are like zombies to me... Anyways lol..
Hope some of this makes sense.

 

[StickyBallz]

Well, maybe some shitty organization but I figure just include all my grow stuff under this thread. Keep me from bouncing around.
So looks like this is about as much as I can muster to give these autos a shot.may wrap one more piece of plastic in a L around the wood, kinda block any rain and freezing winds that may happen.
However with my volunteers alive just ten feet from these, I figure they should be fine as fuck.
Fingers crossed.
Maybe I will actually enjoy running the early spring autos, give me some nice press material come the begining/middle of summer!
Currently running the light 24/7.

 

[GrowsomethingBill]

First thanks for the input, and faith they could take the stressors, always nice to hear.
Yah, I've been pretty happy with looking at them from afar with how they be praying. Gives me a good smile.
Get too close and I start feeling concerns, but am thinking they will all be ready to boom.
Just growing pains, easy to get lost on it.
Yah, so when I was a kid, reading high times back in the nineties, there was a lot of articles surrounding super cropping just coming out. which as many things in cannabis culture seem to, can take on different meanings in different groups. Wether this means to flip them and then reveg, or wether it means just going really hard on them, which I think has now been defined more as mainlining. Where you are topping and training out hard, right.
Anyways.
Without going off on too much a tangent.
So back then, one of the super cropping methods or parts was to take the stalk in two spots near each other and pinch firmly but not breaking, and twisting them opposite- aimed at popping the inner core, without damaging the outter cell walls. Causing it to kinda swell up or knot up. Doing this can help keep from needing to trellis as it forces the plant to reinforce the area. I believe is called "hurding". Anyways, for me it's old an old school thing, as I ran into quite a few mountain men who've been pretty big on doing it to strengthen the plants up.

Didn’t know that had an actual term lol. I always crush the main and bend it over if I got any that are out stretching the others. Usually helps even my canopy out.

 

[StickyBallz]

Didn’t know that had an actual term lol. I always crush the main and bend it over if I got any that are out stretching the others. Usually helps even my canopy out.

Yah, I heard a lot of dudes lately talk about breaking necks- bending over and crushing the stem of anything that shoots up in stretch.
Lol, yah, figure in this world we live in, where it seems absolutely nothing is new, it's more or less what name is being used for what.
Seems like people have pretty good results from the crushing method, still hard for me to be that rough on indoor girls.
Funny cause I'll do it to outdoor ones but indoors its still is super hard for me to be so rough.

 

[GrowsomethingBill]

Yah, I heard a lot of dudes lately talk about breaking necks- bending over and crushing the stem of anything that shoots up in stretch.
Lol, yah, figure in this world we live in, where it seems absolutely nothing is new, it's more or less what name is being used for what.
Seems like people have pretty good results from the crushing method, still hard for me to be that rough on indoor girls.
Funny cause I'll do it to outdoor ones but indoors its still is super hard for me to be so rough.

I must admit I’m a little gun shy at times. Especially if it’s a strain that doesn’t tolerate the stress. I have a buddy that whenever he’s here he reaches in a starts bending shit. He knows I don’t mind because I was probably dragging my feet doing it anyways. If it was ANYONE else doin that to my shit we gotta big fucking problem . But I trust the dude and I know he just likes doing it and giving me shit. Like I do him. Speaking of which I really miss that dude. Kinda had a falling out over our kids but life goes on. He’s still my guy regardless wether we speak or not. Pardon my listless rambling

 

[StickyBallz]

I must admit I’m a little gun shy at times. Especially if it’s a strain that doesn’t tolerate the stress. I have a buddy that whenever he’s here he reaches in a starts bending shit. He knows I don’t mind because I was probably dragging my feet doing it anyways. If it was ANYONE else doin that to my shit we gotta big fucking problem . But I trust the dude and I know he just likes doing it and giving my shit. Like I do him. Speaking of which I really miss that dude. Kinda had a falling out over our kids but life goes on. He’s still my guy regardless wether we speak or not. Pardon my listless rambling

It's all good.
I had a grow buddy from when I used to be on the street living the dream, lol. Been thru some various stages of hell together, we had a falling out over stupid shit, but the truth is fucker doesn't meet me half way, it's always me helping him..that and general sharing/ownership issues.. fucking sucks.
--Curb rant man curb rant--(talking to myself here.)
Anyways, I know about having the rare person I would trust with my plants. And the falling out can suck. I really enjoyed bullshiting and making hash with him. However he'd never come to help my plants, however I would help him a shit ton.. anyways..
Heavy sigh...
So yah, trust- it's hard. Long term relations equally, mixed with kids and spouses- bwah haha, the complexities... Oh my..
Onwards.
Yah, I'm still needing to prune these on the floor today. Been putting it off.
Some of these girls are making me worried. Like this girl, I mean, wondering if I fuckered up by feeding increasing ppm, even if it was low shifts, I know it can make them unhappy... Or if I just didn't sit them well enuf into their 20 gal of media...

Erggg... Fuck, cause part of it look like crowning I'd get while running hydro(if I didn't keep increasing ppm/EC), however it's all tacoed also, and shrieky located at the top, mixed with signs of it if anything being too hot of media.
Or maybe it's the newly introduced stressor of the HPS.( I have been leading towards it being the light addition.) I had the hps side light at 75%, today I'm keeping it down at 50.
I fed recharge and aloe today. Regardless I got a schedule to keep and other girls who don't show such concerning signs as this one, so she may just lose cause I was taught to treat the area as uniformly as possible and I do my best to stick with it.

 

[StickyBallz]

So I am currently working around addressing my issue of watering this. I have been using sulfur and citric to acidify my water, I know this can cause issues due to the fact I may unintentionally raise ppm/EC minorly, causing the plants to have issues- even in low amounts this can happen. Making them feel unstable.
My water here is basic, as most people's, however it's not super hard, the ppm/EC really low at 27-32, so sometimes my pH dance gets me up into
40's-52.
I'm contemplating using soil acidifier I got at home Depot for a top dressing and just using straight- un messed with water.
However I'm Also thinking about feeding them today after I do do prune... Ha, do do..
(Homer visage fading thru minds eye)
It's funny for more reasons than I can easily list.
Anyways right,
Right I was thinking about giving them a good feeding with this fish emulsion, liquid kelp, cal mag and pot silicate. Maybe jolt them into remembering food will be coming occasionally. Feed it some, even though I know there has to be plenty of food in the bag, it doesn't mean it's having an easy time accessing it, so it is crossing my mind to do that directly after pruning today, at a time I don't water at- hoping to get them to realize food and water are different.

 

[StickyBallz]

Mostly they just be looking a little shaky to me.
Maybe I should delay flip and give an extra couple days to work thru the transition into such big bags from what they were last in... However that's a sharp double edged blade right there. Hence why I'm still planning to keep to my schedule, is I know when they hit and get comfy, they will explode and I need that growth to be in bloom, not veg, not gonna help no one for this to turn into the bloody nightmare it has potential of becoming- with all them and all that media and the limited space of my garage...

 

[StickyBallz]

Some of the shakes, quakes and curls I'm seeing
Some fade happening on the outer leafs of the Hindu kush, again- making me think they could withstand some good fish hydroslates.