The learning center and miscellaneous SH#$

[Doniawon]

Super lemon haze. I thought it funny no one answered you for a bit. Lol. I just read today's posts. Lol. You be funny guy. Lol

Lmfao, it's one my faves, can't get enough of the lemony goodness.

Dude, WTF, you forgot about me for the deranged list? Fuck, I guess I'm low priority these days. Hahaha

What the heck is that placobuzatrol?

Long answer:
It's a carcinogenic, man made pgr, that was used heavily by a ton of comercial farmers in the late 90's early 2000's.
Still being used today unfortunately. Not nearly as much!

Halts vertical growth hormones, turns buds into rocks and takes weeks off bloom cycles!
***And gives patients cancer.
Aka Bushmaster, bushload, the beast, bloombastic, yellow bottle, fuck there were a ton of em, gravity, rock resonator?, missing several.
Luckily most were pulled from the shelves, but can still be gotten easily today.
Anytime you see rock hard buds, u can assume they were treated with pgr.

There are naturally occurring pgrs like TRIA that are harmless, and are very desirable aswell. But unfortunately greed exist in the Canna markets, and placo can give killer yeilds if used on the right genetics, at the right time in the right amounts.

Example: 2ft 10oz bushes. Etc etc.

Placo is up there with avid and eagle 20 imo.
Sorry for the long rant. Just not a fan.
Short answer:
It's poison, don't use it.

 

[Uncle Romulus]

Long answer:
It's a carcinogenic, man made pgr, that was used heavily by a ton of comercial farmers in the late 90's early 2000's.
Still being used today unfortunately. Not nearly as much!

Halts vertical growth hormones, turns buds into rocks and takes weeks off bloom cycles!
***And gives patients cancer.
Aka Bushmaster, bushload, the beast, bloombastic, yellow bottle, fuck there were a ton of em, gravity, rock resonator?, missing several.
Luckily most were pulled from the shelves, but can still be gotten easily today.
Anytime you see rock hard buds, u can assume they were treated with pgr.

There are naturally occurring pgrs like TRIA that are harmless, and are very desirable aswell. But unfortunately greed exist in the Canna markets, and placo can give killer yeilds if used on the right genetics, at the right time in the right amounts.

Example: 2ft 10oz bushes. Etc etc.

Placo is up there with avid and eagle 20 imo.
Sorry for the long rant. Just not a fan.
Short answer:
It's poison, don't use it.

I have to disagree with the “anytime you see rock hard buds” but I hear ya on the rest. I find with hps lighting especially with certain genetics to produce rock hardness on occasion. (without pgr or any stupid tricks) I’ve grown strains that are always airy buds and others that are always hard nuggets. Grown under same setup with same products. I have some bubblegummer curing that was grown under cmh and led is already really solid nugs. If one was to let a nug of it dry right up it would be concrete-like lol. I know what your talking bout tho with some shit that’s unnaturally hard and almost always gives you a headache after smoking. Gross. The worst is when it’s from licensed producers

 

[Doniawon]

I have to disagree with the “anytime you see rock hard buds” but I hear ya on the rest. I find with hps lighting especially with certain genetics to produce rock hardness on occasion. (without pgr or any stupid tricks) I’ve grown strains that are always airy buds and others that are always hard nuggets. Grown under same setup with same products. I have some bubblegummer curing that was grown under cmh and led is already really solid nugs. If one was to let a nug of it dry right up it would be concrete-like lol. I know what your talking bout tho with some shit that’s unnaturally hard and almost always gives you a headache after smoking. Gross. The worst is when it’s from licensed producers

True. Lots of dense Indy's n such.
But can spot the not, a mile away.
I'm n Colorado. Would say a good 60/70% of dispo product is placo.

When u know what to look for it's super obvious. Sad.

Gotta scratch your head when the haze's look like kush.

 

[macsnax]

I've seen my fair share in dispos as well. Everyone here is spoiled compared to those that don't know/grow. Lol.

 

[DET—PDX]

A lot of node spacing has to do with the presence of red light, plant thinks it’s in the shade apparently and stretches more in red waves

 

[BerryNice]

I can fairly confidently say that 10 dry, cured ounces off a two foot plant is impossible just based on the laws of physics and matter. Unless the 2 foot plant is like 5 feet wide lol. There’s a sort of general limit to how much bud one can grow in a sq ft. Even with great genetics and technique Imo. Folks over complicate it. Chicken boning and tiger blasting can really take forever and I like always having weed to smoke and harvesting often, myself as opposed to waiting half my life for a massive mainlined monster to hand them buds over lol. To each their own tho.
But anyways welcome to the forum and good luck and god speed and that. Here’s a bud pic. Hope it pleases you
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Folks speak their mind and tease each other lots here but no one here is tryin to on anyone else. We are all too jaded and burnt out (and ugly) to care bout all that here. Plenty of disabled folks here and the like, so you aren’t alone or the weirdo or whatever. Some just mentally deranged like @TerpyTyrone and @SaintyMcCunt and I. But it’s all love and we look out for each other.

check instagra people doing it all day long

granted some of them may be like 2 foot even or 2 foot 11 inc ect and cover3x3 and 4x4 area and are oly plant under some series lights in hvac controlled rooms

but yeah they are basically really wide but 300+ grams all day if you know what your doing

will all due respect just bc have not done it yet dont mean it can not be done

Dozen of people doing it daily on IG

 

[BerryNice]

@Uncle Romulus

I bet if you tried you could do it bc i can almost get there and i would assume you can grow night and day better then me

 

[SoLowDoughLow]

@Uncle Romulus

I bet if you tried you could do it bc i can almost get there and i would assume you can grow night and day better then me

He did say that it COULD be done if the plant was really wide. Imo, it's not worth it... I would just grow more plants, quicker.

I guess if you're one of this people who actually care about plant count it's a good idea

 

[Deleted member 60]

I'm sure it all serves a purpose somewhere....but I'm like you Unc.....just grow more fuckin' plants and stop with the OCD shit of tying em down/doin all sorts of bondage to 'em. And if yer going outside with 'em all flattened/spread out...yer gonna have major broken branch problems about 6 weeks in....or when it rains...

Paclo....definitely some weird stuff on cannabis. Also widely used in landscaping...in parks...and other public places they don't wanna mow/trim as often/etc. Not sure about it being widely used in the dispensaries here. They test for that shit and I don't think it would fly/be worth it to lose an entire crop just to harden up the nugs.....but I don't buy their weed...so it don't matter here WTF they do as long as I have my grow rights.

 

[BerryNice]

He did say that it COULD be done if the plant was really wide. Imo, it's not worth it... I would just grow more plants, quicker.

I guess if you're one of this people who actually care about plant count it's a good idea

I must have miss read it my bad Im not the sharpest in the morning But i do not grow for profit

I was T boned by a ups truck and can not walk so all i need to do is grow 2 -3 pounds for my head

If i someday want to grow a shit tone of plants ill build a farm and hire people or buy a farm that is turn key already

I lose $$ every single grow bc I buy soil by the pallets and i have bad seed buying addiction

I could get some help and go BIG but no reason atm



If i had a normal life i would grow trees but man hard to explain when you have a plant you can not manage yourself it get super frustrating

gets old asking people to come help you do things you can not do

Growing more plants is more work for you no big deal but everything i do is from a chair and has to be lifted from a chair

So its about finding the middle for me I got to grow a bunch of small ones find the ones i want then grow a few little monsters that i can handle

I have a veg room a flower room and a 24/7 auto room it is what it is i do best i can

Everyday kicks my ass man 6 am im up moving plants from room to room and then again 6pm

I understand you all better growers and know way more then me i want to do is make find ways to improve

I hope to be able to have some help this summer to make it so i do not have to swap my plants as much

But everything depends on the guy i cant do it myself

 

[BerryNice]

I'm sure it all serves a purpose somewhere....but I'm like you Unc.....just grow more fuckin' plants and stop with the OCD shit of tying em down/doin all sorts of bondage to 'em. And if yer going outside with 'em all flattened/spread out...yer gonna have major broken branch problems about 6 weeks in....or when it rains...

Paclo....definitely some weird stuff on cannabis. Also widely used in landscaping...in parks...and other public places they don't wanna mow/trim as often/etc. Not sure about it being widely used in the dispensaries here. They test for that shit and I don't think it would fly/be worth it to lose an entire crop just to harden up the nugs.....but I don't buy their weed...so it don't matter here WTF they do as long as I have my grow rights.

Get your legs pruned at the knee caps my man and have your right hand crushed to point it is worthless and i bet you change the way you grow your buds also

I lucky to even be alive if not for good weed i would have killed myself

 

[Deleted member 60]

It wasn't meant to be personal...or aimed at you. Didn't know about your wreck/etc. So sorry you have to face such shit everyday. My best friend's son got hit...by a UPS truck as well...29 years ago...and he didn't make it.

FWIW....I died inside 8 years ago when my son passed. I don't have your physical limitations but the shit in my head would crush most folks straight up. Like yesterday...couldn't place why...other than "life sucks major ass"....but it ain't natural for a grown man to walk around crying and draggin the clouds with him. Same shit happens everyday. I wake up...and then it hits. "boy...you're gonna carry that weight...carry that weight a long time..."

If it wasn't for the wife/other son.....i woulda checked out with a big bottle of opies rather than riding this never-ending pain train.

Wish you were closer. I have so much weed here...and hash...it's almost stupid....and I'm GROWING MORE....

and buying seeds I don't need....

best of luck

 

[Bodyne]

yep, bout same vibe in my neck o the woods also. Hang in there, gents, all I can say. I isolate myself to deal, not supposed to, just way it is. We all do it our way I reckon. Thoughts prayers and luck to everyone. Keep growin, only thing makes me get out of bed everyday. And the dog.

 

[Deleted member 60]

I hear ya about the isolation. Everytime I leave the property and I deal with the chuckleheads out there today...I come home...stocked up...for bear...so I don't have to go/be amongst the idiots again for as long as humanly possible. It sure isn't gettin' any better out there. Everybody blames someone else for their own pitfalls and piss poor decisions made along the way...or feels someone else is holding them back.

As Graham Parker sang "Nobody hurts you...harder than yourself...." Yup.

 

[BerryNice]

It wasn't meant to be personal...or aimed at you. Didn't know about your wreck/etc. So sorry you have to face such shit everyday. My best friend's son got hit...by a UPS truck as well...29 years ago...and he didn't make it.

FWIW....I died inside 8 years ago when my son passed. I don't have your physical limitations but the shit in my head would crush most folks straight up. Like yesterday...couldn't place why...other than "life sucks major ass"....but it ain't natural for a grown man to walk around crying and draggin the clouds with him. Same shit happens everyday. I wake up...and then it hits. "boy...you're gonna carry that weight...carry that weight a long time..."

If it wasn't for the wife/other son.....i woulda checked out with a big bottle of opies rather than riding this never-ending pain train.

Wish you were closer. I have so much weed here...and hash...it's almost stupid....and I'm GROWING MORE....

and buying seeds I don't need....

best of luck
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I can not imagine what you are going threw the guy that hit me died and has 4 kids i think about them all the time

That sucks man I am sorry to find out your son I wish i was closer so we could smoke and you could tell me all about him

I have very little forum time i joined rui and did not really like it so i came here because someone i like had mentioned this forum

A few have questioned why not just do this or that so i figured i try make it clear that for now i cant and why

I like to do things myself and get frustrated when i cant

I hope to someday get to know you better bc you sound like a person i would like as a friend

I am sorry about your son man

 

[Old ST1R]

I must have miss read it my bad Im not the sharpest in the morning But i do not grow for profit

I was T boned by a ups truck and can not walk so all i need to do is grow 2 -3 pounds for my head

If i someday want to grow a shit tone of plants ill build a farm and hire people or buy a farm that is turn key already

I lose $$ every single grow bc I buy soil by the pallets and i have bad seed buying addiction

I could get some help and go BIG but no reason atm



If i had a normal life i would grow trees but man hard to explain when you have a plant you can not manage yourself it get super frustrating

gets old asking people to come help you do things you can not do

Growing more plants is more work for you no big deal but everything i do is from a chair and has to be lifted from a chair

So its about finding the middle for me I got to grow a bunch of small ones find the ones i want then grow a few little monsters that i can handle

I have a veg room a flower room and a 24/7 auto room it is what it is i do best i can

Everyday kicks my ass man 6 am im up moving plants from room to room and then again 6pm

I understand you all better growers and know way more then me i want to do is make find ways to improve

I hope to be able to have some help this summer to make it so i do not have to swap my plants as much

But everything depends on the guy i cant do it myself

What’s this business about moving plants from room to room twice a day? Sounds really inefficient, especially for someone with mobility issues.

 

[Deleted member 60]

What I've learned through it all is that....just when you think it's as bad as it can get in your world...you hear a story and it jolts you back into reality/perspective....that >someone else always has it worse<. It's a weird fuckin place to be when you think "how lucky" you are that you've only lost one son. I know someone now...from my Grief Classes...who lost THREE boys. Fuck me. then I'm standing there and in the backchannel of my head that "how lucky" thing comes across the wire and it just levels you...cus there can't be MORE pain than this...

but there is.

I call it "The Pool of Pain". We're all in it.....but you don;t realize it until something major drops into the pool and the waves begin....and then...they just keep coming. How big the waves are depends on how close you are to the source of the pain....but the waves never stop....be they large or small......and then there's thoise Freak waves that come out of nowhere and capsize the boat...daily....

You obviously know what I'm talkin about. While completely different...the things we are facing are with us for life.....and that puts that extra spin on shit that most folks don't see/experience/deal with daily. No SSRI gonna fix it...no amount of time gonna fix it...no words gonna fix it. All we can do is make the best of the hands we were dealt...hard as it may be at times.

Thank You for the P-E-R-S-P-E-C-T-I-V-E. Once again...I look within and see that others have far greater challenges and I was lucky to have my son for the time he was here.

 

[Old ST1R]

What I've learned through it all is that....just when you think it's as bad as it can get in your world...you hear a story and it jolts you back into reality/perspective....that >someone else always has it worse<. It's a weird fuckin place to be when you think "how lucky" you are that you've only lost one son. I know someone know...from my Grief Classes...who last THREE boys. Fuck me. then I'm standing there and in the backchannel of my head that "how lucky" thing comes across the wire and it just levels you...cus there can't be MORE pain than this...

but there is.

I call it "The Pool of Pain". We're all in it.....but you don;t realize it until something major drops into the pool and the waves begin....and then...they just keep coming. How big the waves are depends on how close you are to the source of the pain....but the waves never stop....be they large or small......and then there's thoise Freak waves that come out of nowhere and capsize the boat...daily....

You obviously know what I'm talkin about. While completely different...the things we are facing are with us for life.....and that puts that extra spin on shit that most folks don't see/experience/deal with daily. No SSRI gonna fix it...no amount of time gonna fix it...no words gonna fix it. All we can do is make the best of the hands we were dealt...hard as it may be at times.

Thank You for the P-E-R-S-P-E-C-T-I-V-E. Once again...I look within and see that others have far greater challenges and I was lucky to have my son for the time he was here.

I’m sorry for your loss Sticky. I have one son who is the world to me and I cannot imagine the pain of losing him and hope I never experience it.

Kudos to you for keeping your shit together as well as you have. I’m not sure I would fare as well as you have.

 

[BerryNice]

What’s this business about moving plants from room to room twice a day? Sounds really inefficient, especially for someone with mobility issues.

I have someone here to pick me up and take me into town and I explain better later

You are 100% tho main reason i use 3 rooms one being very small so i made it a light leak dark room other room is for autos 24/7 and then i use the other room 18/6 and sometimes 24/7 hps two sets of flower and ill remove the ones in veg

There are people way behind the ball like my state i just did my first dab a month ago and dont even know how to make any of the good wax or anything like edibles

Nothing in the dark room at all and other rooms each have multi tents

I live in state where it is not legal yet so i have only 2 people that i trust enough to come inside and help me

I can not break down the stuff myself but my plan is to try and figure out ways make better for me

this is going to sound crazy but i really like some of these new autos from mephisto and who knows maybe in 5 years auto will be the way to go for me

 

[Deleted member 60]

I’m sorry for your loss Sticky. I have one son who is the world to me and I cannot imagine the pain of losing him and hope I never experience it.

Kudos to you for keeping your shit together as well as you have. I’m not sure I would fare as well as you have.

You learn to wear the mask.....though...as you see in my posts....the topic is so all-encompassing that I have a hard time not referencing it/drawing of of it because it 'is" what i live now. I remember well sitting in the HS school auditorium....not 2 months before my son died...at another kid's rememberance service...thinking "how would >I< ever deal with such a thing?"

And then BAM....I was dealing with it....or should i say..."trying" to deal with it. And 8 years later...I'm still here...trying to deal/frame/understand even a shred of it. All I know is that it changes you...and we all change (and deal with it) differently. Nothing is across the board when it comes to death...especially the death of a child. I've lost my dad and my brother since then...and while those were tough events...they didn't even move the scale in comparison to losing my son.

Again...I thank you all for the perspective. That shit is hard to come by most days when yer just concentrating on (somehow) keeping all of the balls in the air and ridin the ride.