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I will try. It's been challenging with my phone and the hps. May need to shut it off for a bit.
West Coast Chronicles
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spyralout
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Phylex
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Public Service Announcement: @spyralout @SoLowDoughLow @Jesselikes2Grow @yougrowyourway @Texagonian @SmithsJunk
For full transparency: When trimming the first Ground Pounder that finished up there was one lone seed on a lower. There weren't any nanners present or visible on the plant. I have a full tray of pollinated clones in the center of the tent. I also had the outer edges of the tent lined with pollinated plants. I did possibly contaminate the tent on the last round of pollinations, (What I was originally thinking) but it's unconfirmed. I pollinated clone groups staggered a week apart. When placing the last pollinated group back into the flower tent, I realized I forgot to do my second wash before moving it in. I noticed some leaves were still covered with pollen. I always rinse twice. Once while in the veg rack before moving them out, and a second time once they're outside while enroute to the flower tent. In this particular instance, I actually forgot the second wash. So I'm uncertain if the pollen was neutralized completely or not. But there was one seed in the first Ground Pounder. I also immediately sprayed down those newly pollinated plants again once I noticed the pollen on there leaves still. But it could have potentially been a little too late for some lone pollen to find its way through the tent if it was in fact still viable.
Tonight I pulled all but four plants out for their 48 hours of darkness before chop. I was cutting most of the fan leaves off before the move and toward the end of this, I noticed dried male flower parts (most likely a nanner) stuck to the tip of my scissors. I have no idea who this came from but I began looking them over. I can't find or see any nanners anywhere on any of them. But I won't know for certain until I'm in deep, trimming. Nor will I know if they're seeded at all until then. If a sporadic nanner exposes itself at any point, I also won't know if it's viable pollen being released or if it's sterile. Unless of course I start finding seeds while trimming.
If I do find a fair amount of seeds, but no sporadic nanners anywhere, it could have very well been from the pollen contamination possibility. But I still couldn't be certain of that with what I saw today. So this is quite the mental conundrum for me and my test group.
With that said, I have never grown anything that spit out nanners, ever. Nor have I ever seen any on these throughout this entire test grow. All I know is what I saw today on the tip of my scissors. So I want to pass this information along to all of you, so you can be aware and stay vigilant looking for possible late flower nanners. I certainly wouldn't hold it against any of you if you didn't want to deal with it and culled or didn't grow any of the seeds. I just don't have all of the information yet, and I'm uncertain who it could possibly be from. It's throwing me for a loop. Nothing I've ever grown or used expressed this trait. So I'm not sure if one of these crosses brought it forward a little or not. I'm fairly confident it's not a dominant trait, because nothing has ever been visible or at least seen. And Solo, I'd still be willing to bet your mystery plant that was covered in them wasn't a Ground Pounder. If these girls threw one, it was a fucking stealthy ninja.
Even still, this little finding and uncertainty has taken a little wind out of my sail. Because I have to say almost all of these girls look absolutely gorgeous with their coloring, flowering structure, and trichome coverage. Even most of their aromas are just immaculate. One nose today was Grape Otter Pop Concentrate and another was freshly baked blueberry muffins. Both being strongly distinct, not faint. Even some of what I would consider the ugly flower structured phenotypes were covered in textured beach sand trichomes reminiscent of the BCK.
So it will be gut wrenching if I find any nanners or seeds during trim, and I end up getting back some off of the charts, super dank smoke reports back from Spyral. Because they already look the part.
I'm still keeping my fingers crossed everything turns out okay. But I needed to share this none the less. I greatly appreciate all of you helping me test these seeds, and like I mentioned before, if the risk or potential risk isn't worth it for your real estate, I totally understand.
That is all
Phylex
For full transparency: When trimming the first Ground Pounder that finished up there was one lone seed on a lower. There weren't any nanners present or visible on the plant. I have a full tray of pollinated clones in the center of the tent. I also had the outer edges of the tent lined with pollinated plants. I did possibly contaminate the tent on the last round of pollinations, (What I was originally thinking) but it's unconfirmed. I pollinated clone groups staggered a week apart. When placing the last pollinated group back into the flower tent, I realized I forgot to do my second wash before moving it in. I noticed some leaves were still covered with pollen. I always rinse twice. Once while in the veg rack before moving them out, and a second time once they're outside while enroute to the flower tent. In this particular instance, I actually forgot the second wash. So I'm uncertain if the pollen was neutralized completely or not. But there was one seed in the first Ground Pounder. I also immediately sprayed down those newly pollinated plants again once I noticed the pollen on there leaves still. But it could have potentially been a little too late for some lone pollen to find its way through the tent if it was in fact still viable.
Tonight I pulled all but four plants out for their 48 hours of darkness before chop. I was cutting most of the fan leaves off before the move and toward the end of this, I noticed dried male flower parts (most likely a nanner) stuck to the tip of my scissors. I have no idea who this came from but I began looking them over. I can't find or see any nanners anywhere on any of them. But I won't know for certain until I'm in deep, trimming. Nor will I know if they're seeded at all until then. If a sporadic nanner exposes itself at any point, I also won't know if it's viable pollen being released or if it's sterile. Unless of course I start finding seeds while trimming.
If I do find a fair amount of seeds, but no sporadic nanners anywhere, it could have very well been from the pollen contamination possibility. But I still couldn't be certain of that with what I saw today. So this is quite the mental conundrum for me and my test group.
With that said, I have never grown anything that spit out nanners, ever. Nor have I ever seen any on these throughout this entire test grow. All I know is what I saw today on the tip of my scissors. So I want to pass this information along to all of you, so you can be aware and stay vigilant looking for possible late flower nanners. I certainly wouldn't hold it against any of you if you didn't want to deal with it and culled or didn't grow any of the seeds. I just don't have all of the information yet, and I'm uncertain who it could possibly be from. It's throwing me for a loop. Nothing I've ever grown or used expressed this trait. So I'm not sure if one of these crosses brought it forward a little or not. I'm fairly confident it's not a dominant trait, because nothing has ever been visible or at least seen. And Solo, I'd still be willing to bet your mystery plant that was covered in them wasn't a Ground Pounder. If these girls threw one, it was a fucking stealthy ninja.
Even still, this little finding and uncertainty has taken a little wind out of my sail. Because I have to say almost all of these girls look absolutely gorgeous with their coloring, flowering structure, and trichome coverage. Even most of their aromas are just immaculate. One nose today was Grape Otter Pop Concentrate and another was freshly baked blueberry muffins. Both being strongly distinct, not faint. Even some of what I would consider the ugly flower structured phenotypes were covered in textured beach sand trichomes reminiscent of the BCK.
So it will be gut wrenching if I find any nanners or seeds during trim, and I end up getting back some off of the charts, super dank smoke reports back from Spyral. Because they already look the part.
I'm still keeping my fingers crossed everything turns out okay. But I needed to share this none the less. I greatly appreciate all of you helping me test these seeds, and like I mentioned before, if the risk or potential risk isn't worth it for your real estate, I totally understand.
That is all
Phylex
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yougrowyourway
illgrowmyway
Thanks for the heads up. I'm not culling my lil sledges we'll see what happens. I plan on taking them to f2. I'm debating now between bft and black abyss pop a half a pack on the next run.
Phylex
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I genuinely appreciate that. I can see now that running a test group with a lot of pollinated plants in the same tent was a mistake. I'd really like some kind of confirmation either way. Obviously I'd love to get reports back from you guys of no nanners at all. That would be a huge breath of relief. Or worse case, help me narrow down which one of the strains could be the culprit to a late flower nanner if that was the case. It's a shitty feeling seeing how gorgeous these girls are and how they smell, only to receive the scare I saw tonight.
SCJedi
Synergist
Pollen is our best friend and our most sinister enemy.
I seem to be able to run aseptic techniques to prevent contamination in my mycology and tissue culture but I'm friggin sloppy with pollen. I take a lot of pride in being precise similar to your rinse twice rule but I just have some branches that got nailed from something somewhere and many others that are with intent.
It is all part of the mystery but transparency elicits trust. Thank you for doing the right thing and letting folks know.
I seem to be able to run aseptic techniques to prevent contamination in my mycology and tissue culture but I'm friggin sloppy with pollen. I take a lot of pride in being precise similar to your rinse twice rule but I just have some branches that got nailed from something somewhere and many others that are with intent.
It is all part of the mystery but transparency elicits trust. Thank you for doing the right thing and letting folks know.
Texagonian
Outlaw
@Phylex , first I would like to thank you for the concern and transparency. This will by no means stop what I have vowed to do. I am starting my harvest of my current grow tonight and am also getting some of every kind you have gifted. No worries here. I’ll keep my eyes peeled and report any oddities. I’m sure it was a mishap. I have been more jittery waiting on the current grow to finish than hearing of a single seed find. Have a great evening 
Phylex
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I'm usually very diligent with my practices as well. But this grow has proven difficult with time constraints. I was originally planning to not grow during these times because I knew they were coming, but against better judgement, decided to try anyway. And of course, I was pressed for time, rushed one evening to try and get things done, and inevitably slipped up. This experience is a hard lesson learned no doubt.
Phylex
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You're welcome and I wouldn't want it any other way. Open and honest transparency is the least I can do and I appreciate your willingness to continue helping me test these.@Phylex , first I would like to thank you for the concern and transparency. This will by no means stop what I have vowed to do. I am starting my harvest of my current grow tonight and am also getting some of every kind you have gifted. No worries here. I’ll keep my eyes peeled and report any oddities. I’m sure it was a mishap. I have been more jittery waiting on the current grow to finish than hearing of a single seed find. Have a great evening
Texagonian
Outlaw
Anytime man, it’s my honor!
yougrowyourway
illgrowmyway
2 boys showed face. Possibly females on 4. One unknown. Absolutely adore Aurora. Another week then off to the flower tent for them.
Edit: just realized the collage maker ruined the resolution on them. Can barely see the sex on some of them. Will post an update when all males and females are accounted for.
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spyralout
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@Phylex you have shown time and again that you are an open, honest, generous, and impressively astute man. You are your own worst critic, it comes with the territory when you're pushing yourself to grow that fire and find those badasses keeper crosses. Like you said, the flowers are amazingly beautiful, and we will continue to grow your gear, we already see the potential early in flower. Shoulder-rubs-up-against-the-leaves-and-I-will-get-"the looks"-at-the-store STANK. I am going to visit them right now 
Very honored to be running these with you and the tester crew. The full disclosure speaks volumes. The integrity and ethical practices alone are admirable traits; the dankass fire you have going on is a total bonus.
Very honored to be running these with you and the tester crew. The full disclosure speaks volumes. The integrity and ethical practices alone are admirable traits; the dankass fire you have going on is a total bonus.
yougrowyourway
illgrowmyway
This.@Phylex you have shown time and again that you are an open, honest, generous, and impressively astute man. You are your own worst critic, it comes with the territory when you're pushing yourself to grow that fire and find those badasses keeper crosses. Like you said, the flowers are amazingly beautiful, and we will continue to grow your gear, we already see the potential early in flower. Shoulder-rubs-up-against-the-leaves-and-I-will-get-"the looks"-at-the-store STANK. I am going to visit them right now
Very honored to be running these with you and the tester crew. The full disclosure speaks volumes. The integrity and ethical practices alone are admirable traits; the dankass fire you have going on is a total bonus.
SoLowDoughLow
Mediocre grower
Thanks for this, really fucking cool giving us the heads up, and it actually makes me wanna pop more of your gear, cuz you're a straightforward dude, and more people need to see the fire you're putting out.
I'm convinced yours was one of my males... I think the herm I had was my peyote critical bastard, cuz that was around the time I found a bunch of herms in my tent that possibly impregnated the PC.
And out of my 2 remaining plants, I planted a fem gg4, so I think that one is accounted for, and the other one is giving off a very mexican sativa vibe lol
