spyralout
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How are you liking the light so far? Any quirks or limitations that you see?
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Uncle Roms dirty debacles
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Uncle Romulus
madman, scholar
No ph related products in those root bawlz besides when fed potassium silicate once in mid veg. 3/4 megacrop + 1/4 gh biothrive bloom 2-4-4 (acts as ph down and mild pk boost) through flower. Fed every watering (never higher than 750-850 ppm) with 10-20 percent runoff. If ph of brew is anywhere between 6-7 (when i bother checking) I send it
. I keep it simple cause as you’ve prob noticed.. I keep too many strains of friggin weed alive at one time in my small ass space. Too many projects on the go to remember who needs what so I just keep nutes moderate and watch leaves to tell me what’s up. I’d give up yield for quality any day. Roasting plants ONE time in flower and that bud will not be top shelf. I still burn the odd tip and that but staying away from massive ppms and tons of ph products has improved stuff round here. Being that your a hydro maniac I doubt you could get away without ph down but It don’t matter cause nothing builds up in your roots to f@ck with the ph of rootspace. Just change the ol res out. With soil and soil like mediums, part of anything you put in there stays so you gotta be conscious of that.
It just occurred to me that I’m preaching now..
stoned up real nice.. might as well have a rant about it
Uncle Romulus
madman, scholar
I really like it. The aluminum rail thing heats up pretty warm but besides that there’s no heat. From what I understand this means it is doin what it posed ta dew.. I would get 4 of these if I was setting up a 4x4. Plug and play.. done. $268 American for 500 watts.
Uncle Romulus
madman, scholar
That lenofocus unit there looks cool Man. I’d roll the dice on one.
spyralout
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Do you known the K? Thinking of swooping up a couple for a new seedling/clone tent
TerpyTyrone
LED Recruiter
spyralout
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Maybe I should get one of each. The price is right. I think it said meanwell driver but that pic looks more like a sweatshop special
Uncle Romulus
madman, scholar
l think average is 3500. It has 660nm s and 6k type white ones and plenty of 3000k looking little diode bastards
gwheels
Hobby Farmer
SmithsJunk
Opus Herba
I havent used this fixture but I see the seller making some claims that would make me shy away from it.
"High Efficiency: this LED grow light panel is full spectrum with 672pcs LED diodes, total LED power is 302.4 watts, actual power draw is 103W ±5%, it is equal to 200-250W traditional grow lights and the fake 600W to 1000W LED grow lights on the marketplace"
They are claiming to be on par with or better than Cree or true Samsung QB's. Here is the 110w PAR footptint they're claiming vs a 65w HLG QB...
...according to the numbers their claims are full of sh*t. The 65w QB puts out 50% or more usable light making it more than twice as efficient. Buy what you want, I just wanted to give you the all the info. If I were purchasing, I'd spend the $150 on a single HLG QB instead of two of the offbrand. Between the light output and efficiency IMO you're getting more bang for your buck with the QB and likely much longer lasting products.
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SmithsJunk
Opus Herba
Even better than spending $150 on a prebuilt, buy a set of 4x 70 watt Quantum boards for $140 and a Meanwell 240w 24v driver for $67. For around $250-$270 you'll get 4x QB's for less than the price of 4x the offbrands...
...that is if you can buy in the US. They are starting to get really cheap here with just a little DIY. Quantum require no cooling fans, independent heat sinks, or fan drivers, leaving them one of the most cost effective lighting fixtures on the market. Especially for being such quality builds. After looking up the prices for you I decided these will be my next lighting purchase. All that's needed aside from the driver and boards are some quick connects, electric wire, hanging wire, on/off switch, plug, and dimmer, all for around $40-$60.
...that is if you can buy in the US. They are starting to get really cheap here with just a little DIY. Quantum require no cooling fans, independent heat sinks, or fan drivers, leaving them one of the most cost effective lighting fixtures on the market. Especially for being such quality builds. After looking up the prices for you I decided these will be my next lighting purchase. All that's needed aside from the driver and boards are some quick connects, electric wire, hanging wire, on/off switch, plug, and dimmer, all for around $40-$60.
spyralout
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Thanks Smith for looking into that and the suggestions. That is a bit more expensive but sounds better than the lenofocus. What do you think about the growyield that Rom has?
Old ST1R
Grow Yer Own Stone
Would the 3500K be better for veg or flower? What would be best for a veg only? Best for veg and flower? Best for flower only?
SmithsJunk
Opus Herba
I'm sure you can find x1 & x2 QB barebones as well but being able to use a single driver for all four is more cost effective. Just buy your parts a little at a time. You were planning on spending $150 so just buy the boards first for $140 then buy the driver(s) and parts when you have more cash. That's the nice thing about DIYs, you don't have to drop a load of cash at once.
If you're talking about a fixture, give me a link to it and I'll look it up and compare.
Uncle Rommy is a scavenge king and bada$$ guerrilla grower. He could grow a chronic plant with a lighter and a jar of piss. I've seen him grow some crazy sh*t with with cobbled together fixtures and every piece of Tupperware in the house. But necessity is the father of invention and it's hard for him to get the same equipment we do for a fair price. I know, I've tried to find it for him up there.
3500k-4000k is an intermediate range that can grow all stages as long as the lights have a good spectrum. There are more specific ranges like 2700k-3000k would be more for flowering and 5000k-6000k for veg. 3500k is a good starter then augment for veg and flower with the other colors. (There may be a better specific range for flower and veg. These examples are just what I've seen for sale.)
spyralout
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Agreed, you can say that again Rom is impressively resourceful and brings that fire.
Here's the link it's not growyield, it's enjoyield
Amazon.com : EnjoYield 600W LED Grow Light Sunlight Full Spectrum White Grow Lamp, Linkable Greenhouse Hydroponics Plant Light for Indoor Plants Veg and Flower : Garden & Outdoor
Amazon.com : EnjoYield 600W LED Grow Light Sunlight Full Spectrum White Grow Lamp, Linkable Greenhouse Hydroponics Plant Light for Indoor Plants Veg and Flower : Garden & Outdoor
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Jewels
Bon~Fire
This should muddy the water.
So, a red looking(2.2k) hps bulb has tons of energy around 650nm
A blue looking (+ 4k) has lots of output @ 450nm.
Screwy eh?
'K' numbers fall as 'nm' value increases.
Let us put this in terms we can understand.
Led technology is very Spectrum specific. LED technology is like a number 2 Goose shot from a cylinder choked 20 gauge. Kills what you aim it at. Very specific penetrating power.
Incandescent technology like HPS and MH is more like four of your best friends pumping 12 gauge bird shot, full choke, into a flock of partridge.
We are gonna hit something.
So, a red looking(2.2k) hps bulb has tons of energy around 650nm
A blue looking (+ 4k) has lots of output @ 450nm.
Screwy eh?
'K' numbers fall as 'nm' value increases.
Let us put this in terms we can understand.
Led technology is very Spectrum specific. LED technology is like a number 2 Goose shot from a cylinder choked 20 gauge. Kills what you aim it at. Very specific penetrating power.
Incandescent technology like HPS and MH is more like four of your best friends pumping 12 gauge bird shot, full choke, into a flock of partridge.
We are gonna hit something.
Old ST1R
Grow Yer Own Stone
Thanks SJ! I’d like to get a QB LED that will veg a 4 x 4 tent. I’m pretty handy and could do a lot myself. Would like something that comes in around $200 US. Any suggestions?
Beauty eh!
SmithsJunk
Opus Herba
You'll need x4 QBs for that area. $250-$270 is about as cheap as you can get to effectually grow that whole space. It would cost $600-$900 in good quality COBs to do it.
SmithsJunk
Opus Herba
I'm not really a fan. I think the board was better coverage.