pleasecheese
Really Active Member
ive had strains that wont throw a sac no matter what you did to them, the most recent being jelly pie. I did just about everything to that gal. she just liked it even more. lol.
#Heisenbeans Genetics
- Thread starter Heisen
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Well i guerrilla grow, and there are times when i leave a good number of females in the ground because theyre lacking. Ive noticed a lot of these dont reproduce. Given its not a huge number but its enough for me to rule out rodelization.
Heathenraider
Heathen Basterd
I will throw out all the genetic science and reproductive science books and horticulture books and courses I have taken and read ,they are obviously all wrong , Thanks Bro .
Do you honestly believe theres not one landrace that doesn't contain the trait?
Armdog
RDWC GROWER
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IrocZ
Really Active Member
It's either the double negative, or a little bit of smoke, but I had to read that multiple times, lol.
Do you believe there is one landrace that does not have a single hermie gene?
I've been waiting for someone to post a reliable source in this regard. I believe I read the same as Heathen, that the "hermie gene" has been in cannabis for thousands of years. This would mean that it simply cannot be "bred out" by breeders. Cannabis has many repeating genes, therefore the more the times the individual gene is on the chromosome, the more likely the plant is to herm. With poor selection the "hermie gene" can start to show itself regularly. With good selection(against herm tendencies) the gene will not show up nearly as often.
I believe EVERY cannabis plant has the herm gene. That does not mean they will all herm, but they all have the possibility, some more frequently than others.
I'm just a guy on the internet, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I am looking forward to somebody sharing an actual reliable source to prove one side or the other
I believe it was DJ Short who said that most indica landrace varieties were believed to be truebreeding dioecious meaning they were male and female only, they didnt share male and female flowers on the same plant. And that wild sativa strains were primarily truebreeding hermaphroditic varieties. In todays world of poly hybrids almost everthing contains hermaphroditic traits but i believe there are landraces that are hermaphrodite free.
Amos Otis
Brisco's Bargain Beans
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Armdog
RDWC GROWER
awesome
Which would beg the question, why introduce it in your blueberry if this is what you thought, that those wild sats are true hermies? All that thai in blueberry. Thai genetics known for herms. I figger he began with the thai and added the indica for better indoor growing. When you read his breeding info, it leans towards his opinion of blaming indoor growing for many things, including people using early flowering indicas bringing out the ruduralis, losing the long flowering sats, etc. And in his opine, f2's bring out the most expressions, f1's hybrid vigor. etc. If this is the case, noone should say a word bout any blueberry herms, he states it in his genetics plain as day, for whatever reason.
Which i kinda agree with him on a lot of it, of course i have no idea about the ruderalis thing. Theres no way he could know that for sure. But indoor growing did change a lot, landraces are disappearing. I have always thought f2s were more diverse and f1s have more vigor. By f1s and f2s he does mean crosses of truebreeding landrace or ibl not poly hybrids. On the blueberry idk how he breed it, i just thought it was a polar cross like he speaks of.
what he said bout ruderalis: Odd thing is, now that would be prolly be considered a good CBD strain to grow:
The North American Ruderalis probably originated as follows: After the Indica varieties arrived in the US and became incorporated into the gene pool, many breeders began to cross the earliest maturing individuals with each other in hopes of shortening the maturation cycle.
It would only take a few generations for the ugly Rudy phenotypes to begin expressing themselves. By ugly, I am referring to a strong lack of potency and/or desirability. I know, I was once guilty of the practice myself. It did not take me long to realize that this was a huge mistake in regard to the quality and potency of the future generations' finished product, and all subsequent breeding along this line was ceased.
He also thinks rudi was coaxed out of indica genes.
I guess its all in the eye of the beholder. How could the o knowledgeable one miss out on CBD and its properties in that rudi hybrid stuff, in his complaints of how indoor growing and polys made the gene pool worse.
The North American Ruderalis probably originated as follows: After the Indica varieties arrived in the US and became incorporated into the gene pool, many breeders began to cross the earliest maturing individuals with each other in hopes of shortening the maturation cycle.
It would only take a few generations for the ugly Rudy phenotypes to begin expressing themselves. By ugly, I am referring to a strong lack of potency and/or desirability. I know, I was once guilty of the practice myself. It did not take me long to realize that this was a huge mistake in regard to the quality and potency of the future generations' finished product, and all subsequent breeding along this line was ceased.
He also thinks rudi was coaxed out of indica genes.
I guess its all in the eye of the beholder. How could the o knowledgeable one miss out on CBD and its properties in that rudi hybrid stuff, in his complaints of how indoor growing and polys made the gene pool worse.
Half them breeders talk alot of bullshit. Ever watched koma or OG raskal on IG lol. Holy shit.
Were not curing world hunger here. Were throwing shit at a wall and hoping shit sticks. We take the best of what we got and cross them together. None of these breeders have the lab equipment to test the DNA of the plants. They eyeball em just like the next guy trying to convince everyone there doing some extra spectacular bullshit. Some hit slam dunks with certain crosses and some flop. It's the nature of the beast and I'll tell you first hand throwing pollen is about 20 percent of the business. That's a fact
Were not curing world hunger here. Were throwing shit at a wall and hoping shit sticks. We take the best of what we got and cross them together. None of these breeders have the lab equipment to test the DNA of the plants. They eyeball em just like the next guy trying to convince everyone there doing some extra spectacular bullshit. Some hit slam dunks with certain crosses and some flop. It's the nature of the beast and I'll tell you first hand throwing pollen is about 20 percent of the business. That's a fact
I guess most breeders are that way, American breeders for sure. A lot of the European breeders know there shit, actually have a plan an carry it out, generation after generation and stablize thier work. Funny thing is it takes so long that the breeders just throwing shit together turn out more fire, not stable of course, but fire nonetheless.
I think a lot of the fire in the US now comes from just a handful of ancestors like the chems, diesels and OGs in a multitude of different combinations. Just about all the potent strains have a good percentage of those.
_klx_
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Lets face it, most of the legendary strains that form the basis of all the popular strains were either mistakes, accidents or bagseeds. Chems, cookies, OG etc etc which is why it always makes me laugh these breeders that take themselves so seriously and think the sun shines out of their arse *cough Matt Riot cough* when in actual fact in all their years of selective breeding they have never come up with anything to match the flukes or accidents.
My conclusion is that chucking pollen from fire genetics at fire genetics will result in fire genetics. The price is unstable genes but I am happy to live with that... all imho.
So if you are running large production rooms, you need another space for pheno hunts from seed.
My conclusion is that chucking pollen from fire genetics at fire genetics will result in fire genetics. The price is unstable genes but I am happy to live with that... all imho.
So if you are running large production rooms, you need another space for pheno hunts from seed.
TheSpaceFarm
DopeCaveDave
Dope. how long till the new drop? And are you gonna restock gps before the drop or just waiting till then?
